Four-Coin Method FOURCOI1.TXT *********************************************************************** As most students of the I Ching know, the probabilities of obtaining the moving and static lines of a hexagram by the yarrow-stalk method is NOT identical to the probabilities of obtaining the lines by the three-coin method. The differences are given in the table below; Yarrow-Stalk Method Three-Coin Method Moving Yin 1/16 2/16 = 1/8 Moving Yang 3/16 2/16 = 1/8 Static Yang 5/16 6/16 = 3/8 Static Yin 7/16 6/16 = 3/8 I believe that there are good reasons for using the probabilities of the yarrow-stalk method, which I will not go into in this message. The popularity of the three-coin method is due, I believe, to its simplicity and the short time that it takes to use it. For those who wish a short and simple coin method of consulting the I Ching, I offer the following, which is equivalent to the yarrow-stalk method in regards to the probabilities of obtaining the moving and static lines. This method, which I call the Four-Coin Method, is a variation of a method described in The I Ching Handbook. The Four-Coin method uses three coins of one denomination and one coin of another. I shall use three pennies and a nickel for the description below. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Four-Coin Method: Three pennies and a nickel are tossed six times. Each toss determines one line of a hexagram. If the nickel is HEADS, the line is YANG, And if exactly two pennies are HEADS, the line is moving, Otherwise static. If the nickel is TAILS, the line is YIN, And if all three pennies are TAILS, the line is moving, Otherwise static. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Regards, Ed Hacker Edward A. Hacker wrote: > I believe that there are good reasons for using the probabilities of the > yarrow-stalk method... Hi, all. Edward, I really enjoyed the section in your book about probability and the differences in the methods. I always wanted to ask you about this... If you feel that the answers one receives from the Yi Jing are based on probability, then do you feel that the answers we receive are purely random? Why would it be worth while to throw the coins or do the sticks at all? How would it be relevant to the question asked? While this is most unscientific, I feel that I get answers that are a response to my question. I never worried about the differences in probabilities between methods because I have a feeling of interactivity with the YJ. There are certain HGs that I tend to get whether I use sticks, coins or dice (my favorite when time is short). If it was only probability, why do I get the same HGs repeatedly? I am not the only one who has found this phenomena. I know that I am anthropomorphizing (spelling?) the Yi Jing whEn I say this, but I really get a feeling of ancient voices whispering guidance to me when I read the words of King Wen and the Duke of Zhou. (I hope you don't think I need an increase in my medications when you read this. :-) ) What do you think? Why is probability important if the Yi Jing is responding to the question? Why is the Yi Jing important if the answer is random and not in response to the question? I will try your 4 coin method. I like knowing different ways to get King Wen to talk to me...Lorraine ************************ *Lorraine Wilcox L.Ac.* ************************ * 4 9 2 * * 3 5 7 * * 8 1 6 * ************************